Showing posts with label cap. Show all posts
Showing posts with label cap. Show all posts

Saturday, 15 September 2012

CAP



Yesterday we reviewed the differential for shortness of breath and spoke about CAP.

The diagnosis of pneumonia is a clinical one with the history being the most important factor. 
A chest xray will help confirm the clinical suspicion.

The clinical Prediction rule CURB65 is a simple scale to help decide if a patient needs to be admitted.


  • C: confusion
  • U: urea >7 mmol/l
  • R: resp rate> 30
  • B: BP: systolic <90 ; diastolic <60
  • 65: age over 65
Each gives you 1 point. and the sum correlated to a 30 day mortatily rate: 0.6% if socare of 0, 1.7% with a score of 1, 
Scores of 4 have a 15% 30 day mortality rate (this is High).
The general suggestion is score of 3 or more needs to be admitted, and 4 or more needs the ICU

This however, illustrated by our case, is just a tool, but NON a substitution for clinical judgment.


A newer study showed that  a presenting O2 saturday of <92% in itself is a strong predictor of need for hospitalition . 

The patient we discussed had presented with diarreah, AKI, elevated liver enzymes, and a slightly lowered sodium, which made the team suspicious of Legionnaires disease. Although these may be clues to consider this diagnosis, no clinical data can accurately predict this pathogen.
Here is a review article on legionnaires disease

Have a great weekend.
(Happy new year for those celebrating)